Nick Cave has never been one to shy away from difficult conversations. His latest response on The Red Hand Files is no exception.
This time, he tackled the age-old debate of whether art can—or should—be separated from the artist. His response came after a fan questioned him on how he could still listen to Kanye West despite the rapper’s recent controversies.
Cave began by shutting down the idea that an artist and their work exist as separate entities, calling it “absurd.” He sees art as a manifestation of the artist, inseparable from the person who created it. But instead of using that argument to dismiss Kanye entirely, Cave took a different approach—acknowledging the artist’s flaws while still recognising the brilliance in their work.
“The great gift of art is the potential for the artist to excavate their interior chaos and transform it into something sublime,” Cave wrote. “This is what Kanye does. This is what I strive to do, and this is the enterprise undertaken by all genuine artists.”
He didn’t downplay West’s actions—far from it. Cave explicitly called out antisemitism, coercion, and the glorification of fascist imagery as unacceptable. But rather than writing off Kanye completely, he suggested that great art often emerges from deeply flawed individuals, and ignoring that reality doesn’t serve anyone.
Cave also pointed to a broader issue: the belief that we, as individuals, are somehow morally superior to the artists we condemn. He argued that while most people wouldn’t act the way Kanye has, everyone is capable of flaws, harm, and misguided notions. That’s not to excuse anything—just to acknowledge the complexity of human nature.
“As odious and disappointing as many of Kanye’s views are… I endeavour to seek beauty wherever it presents itself. In doing so, I am reluctant to invalidate the best of us in an attempt to punish the worst.”
It’s a divisive stance, but it’s also classic Nick Cave. With his considered nuance, Cave shines a light on the things most turn their heads away from. He is thoughtful, unflinching, and unwilling to reduce the conversation to black and white.